Octets, Nonets, & Tentets

[Chazro]

Can't sleep and have been thinking about this topic. I've always dug the sound of Octets, Nonets, & Tentets. Larger than a usual band but smaller than a Big Band. I've always enjoyed the different sounds available from such combos, especially if the music is well-arranged and written. Starting with Davis/Evans 'Birth Of The Cool'. But I find that even though I own somewhere between 4-5000 LP/CD's I really don't own that many records that I'd consider fits in this particular grouping. I'm going to list the ones that immediately come to mind and I'm hoping to get recommendations from you guys. Mind you, I own tons of records of bands that consist of 8, 9, or 10 players, but I'm not talking about percussionists or multiple electric instrumentation!;) I'm talking basic rhythm section (piano, bass, drums) plus horns. I'm chuckling to myself as a few random records I'm looking at, that I thought fell into this group are actually larger than I realized! So here's another question, what's considered the minimum amount of musicians that would be considered a Big Band. My guess is at least 12 horns plus rhythm section but.....AND some records I thought fell into this category are actually smaller! Like Oliver Nelson's.

Phil Woods Little Big Band
Joe Lovano Nonet
Jim McNeely Tentet
Always thought Dexter Gordon's 'Sophisticated Giant' was a tentet but it's actually 12!
Rob McConnell Tentet
Howard Johnson & Gravity

Ok guys, looking forward to yr recs!

[bluenoter]

A nonet rec:



the blurb at AMG

[steve(thelil)]

My favorite nonets ALL have 10 parts. Why stop at 9?

And I turn it up to 11 when listening.

[bluenoter]

On sale at Jazz Loft: David Murray Octets: The Complete Remastered Recordings on Black Saint & Soul Note (5-CD Box)

Maybe someone would like to recommend it or individual albums from it---

1. Ming
2. Home
3. Murray's Steps
4. New Life
5. Hope Scope

[Mike Schwartz]

Chazro,

I'll bet you know & have heard this one....2010 release...the members of the DH Quintet + Antonio Hart, Gary Smulyan, and Alex Sipiagin

[Chazro]

Yup, I have the Dave Holland record as well as the Wynton Marsalis, the highlights disc, not the box set, which I always felt should've shut the mouths of all the WM naysayers out there as I really think it's a tremendous recording! I thought I was gonna get crushed with recommendations, kinda surprised. I've mentioned the ratio within my music collection which I feel is miniscule, can it be that there really aren't too many to speak of?

[Coda]

Harris Eisenstadt has built up a very impressive portfolio. This recording has it all.

[uli]

a short trailer intoducing 8 bold souls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6TtXtlTa0

and a classic the miles davis nonet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1IWv1Sog5c

[Mike Schwartz]

This is yet another David Weiss project and these cats are really good....4-5 albums altogether I believe


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4axfVG9t_kY

[Mike Schwartz]

Nonet

[Mike Schwartz]

This one is fairly new....good stuff!

[Steve Reynolds]

Eight Bold Souls

Barry Guy New Orchestra which is maybe 10 - 11 pieces

and Mike mentioned the great Tony Malaby Novela band - and the CD is very fine

Live - they are nothing short of miraculous

[Mike Schwartz]

[b]Reynold should be put in the penalty box for not bring this one up[/b]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv5kWbv1YEc

[Mike Schwartz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEAyGREeYYE

[Mike Schwartz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4rkzpYSziQ

[Mike Schwartz]

Enrico Rava

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc6aLVbk0fg

[Mike Schwartz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE7XolCzDHo

[Mike Schwartz]

Tentets more plentiful, it appears, than the other formats suggested in the original post...

[moldyfigg]

Gerry Mulligan's ten was earth shaking.

[Mike Schwartz]

Gerry Mulligan's ten was earth shaking.

Looks like Mulligan on the Art Farmer tentet post #17

[moldyfigg]

Gerry Mulligan's ten was earth shaking.

Looks like Mulligan on the Art Farmer tentet post #17

No question about it. Mulligan's band had Miles on horn, amongst others.

[bluenoter]

Reynold should be put in the penalty box for not bring this one up

[YouTube video of the Peter Brötzmann Chicago Tentet]

Not so. Reynolds was complying with the requested specs:

Mind you, I own tons of records of bands that consist of 8, 9, or 10 players, but I'm not talking about percussionists or multiple electric instrumentation!;) I'm talking basic rhythm section (piano, bass, drums) plus horns.

[moldyfigg]

One of my most treasured items is the 10" original Mulligan ten-tette, autographed by Gerry.

[rawac]

Today I found some spare time to make a SQL, to find the recordings with 8 to 10 musicians in my database. I removed the string things, the one with vocal focus and the electronic stuff. But I left the ones with piano. Some of the rest has been mentioned already.

10:
Gary Burton / Carla Bley / ...: A Genuine Tong Funeral - BMG / RCA Victor / 1967
Pierre Favre Ensemble: Le Voyage - Intakt Records / 2010
Charlie Haden / Gonzalo Rubalcaba: Land Of The Sun / La tierra del sol - Universal France / Verve / ... / 2003
Pablo Held: Glow - Pirouet GmbH / 2010
David Murray / The Gwo Ka Masters / Taj Mahal: The Devil Tried To Kill Me - Justin Time / 2008
Chris Potter 10: Song For Anyone - universal/emarcy / 2006
Max Roach / Abbey Lincoln / Coleman Hawkins / ...: We Insist! - Freedom Now Suite - Candid / Black Lion / 1960
Trygve Seim / Oyvind Braekke / Per Oddvar Johansen: The Source And Different Cikadas - ECM / 2000
United Jazz + Rock Ensemble: X - mood / 1999
The United Jazz + Rock Ensemble Second Generation: Wolfgang Dauner's United 2 - Connector Records/ in-akustik / 2011
Bebo Valdes: Bebo rides again - Timba Records / 1994
Edward Vesala: Satu - ECM / 1976

9:
Rabih Abou-Khalil: The Sultan's Picnic - enja / 1994
Lester Bowie: Avant Pop - ECM / 1986
Lester Bowie's Brass Fantasy: The Fire This Time - IN + OUT Records / 1992
Stefon Harris: African Tarantella (Dances With Duke) - Blue Note / Capitol Records / 2005
Joe Lovano Nonet: On This Day At The Vanguard - Blue Note / Capitol Records / 2002
Roscoe Mitchell: Nine To Get Ready - ECM / 1997
Courtney Pine: Transition In Tradition - Creative People Music / 2008
Gianluigi Trovesi Nonet: Round About A Midsummer's Dream - enja / SWR / 1999
Steve Turre: One 4 J - Telarc / 2003

8:
Geri Allen: the gathering - Verve / PolyGram / 1998
David Binney: Third Occasion - Mythology Records / 2008
David Binney: Graylen Epicenter - Mythology Records / 2010
Carla Bley: 4x4 - ECM / WATT / 1999
The Brazz Brothers / Lester Bowie / ...: Brazzy Voices - IN + OUT Records / 1994
Uri Caine: Toys - JMT / Verve / Polydor / 1995
Dave Douglas: Witness - Bluebird/BMG/RCA / 2000
Chico Freeman y Guataca: Oh, By The Way ... - double moon records / Chall... / 2001
Stefon Harris: The Grand Unification Theory - Blue Note / Capitol Records / 2001
Dave Holland Octet: Pathways - Dare2 Records / 2009
Roscoe Mitchell / The Note Factory: Far Side - ECM / 2007
David Murray Octet: Ming - Black Saint / 1980
David Murray Octet: Octet Plays Trane - Justin Time / 1999
Odean Pope: Odeans List - IN + OUT Records / 2008
Eric Reed: Happiness - nagel heyer / 2000
Gianluigi Trovesi Octet: From G To G - Soul Note / IREC / 1992
Gianluigi Trovesi Octet: Les Hommes Armes - Soul Note / IREC / 1996
Gianluigi Trovesi Ottetto: Fugace - ECM / 2002
World Saxophone Quartet: Experience - Justin Time / 2003
World Saxophone Quartet: Political Blues - Justin Time / 2006

(the smilies are my personal favourites)

[Mike Schwartz]

Nice....thanks!!